Quote from: Turner on December 23, 2016, 11:41:28 PM
So you are maintaining the faith that makes a material world like this "real".
But as I've said, that is as much a religion as any other faith.
What binds so many disparate faiths together is this agreement that this world is real, or is the real one among a list of other possibilities, certainly more real than any reality Jesus tried to describe, which is not considered relevant...even by Christians.
Christians generally insist this world is as real as any world that their God might live in. The point is, they are still interested in "keeping it real", as much or more than the proverbial heaven.
Statements insisting this world is real are not much different from the statements of intent which manifest it to begin with...and simply indicate ongoing loyalty. Such statements carry no weight in the reality Jesus tried to describe...nor with me.
All occupants of this world have such a faith, such loyalty. No surprise there. And it would be a miracle if you opened up your mind to the reality I am trying to describe.
Not sure what you mean why we need Christ to see, as I did not discuss that.
As I've said, Christ is reality, and cannot be seen with eyeballs.
Knowledge provides its own kind of sight and that knowledge comes only from Christ...as there is no knowledge in this world.
With knowledge, one can see Christ, the same as seeing reality.
The opposite of, and substitute for knowledge is faith.
Faith is a gross mockery of knowledge, and is all man has. By faith, man sees the world he wants to see. The general consensus is round planets, but if you wanted only to see flat planets, that may well manifest...FOR YOU...but not necessarily for anyone else. Faith is like that, able to blind you to reality by providing you with all the evidence you want or need to convince you that what you wish for is now the reality. So, faith is deceiving as it manifests imagination into "reality".
For those who can see Christ, they cannot also see "this world", as reality and imagination are incompatible and cannot coexist. And so, to them, what YOU see is irrelevant nostalgia that does not exist and is no longer needed if it ever was.
This is not about being hip or cool.
While Christianity may be irrelevant nostalgia, what I'm saying will still be relevant 2000 years down the strange road of "time".
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Why would you need a Christ to see?. Its one step too far. Open your eyes and observe reality.
We need to move with the times. No need to visit old ideas like Jesus and Flat earths.
No need for devolution. Yes its trendy. Yes its cool and most of all, its key to the peoples favorite pastime. Nostalgia.
Nostalgia aint what it used to be lol
We need to move with the times. No need to visit old ideas like Jesus and Flat earths.
No need for devolution. Yes its trendy. Yes its cool and most of all, its key to the peoples favorite pastime. Nostalgia.
Nostalgia aint what it used to be lol
So you are maintaining the faith that makes a material world like this "real".
But as I've said, that is as much a religion as any other faith.
What binds so many disparate faiths together is this agreement that this world is real, or is the real one among a list of other possibilities, certainly more real than any reality Jesus tried to describe, which is not considered relevant...even by Christians.
Christians generally insist this world is as real as any world that their God might live in. The point is, they are still interested in "keeping it real", as much or more than the proverbial heaven.
Statements insisting this world is real are not much different from the statements of intent which manifest it to begin with...and simply indicate ongoing loyalty. Such statements carry no weight in the reality Jesus tried to describe...nor with me.
All occupants of this world have such a faith, such loyalty. No surprise there. And it would be a miracle if you opened up your mind to the reality I am trying to describe.
Not sure what you mean why we need Christ to see, as I did not discuss that.
As I've said, Christ is reality, and cannot be seen with eyeballs.
Knowledge provides its own kind of sight and that knowledge comes only from Christ...as there is no knowledge in this world.
With knowledge, one can see Christ, the same as seeing reality.
The opposite of, and substitute for knowledge is faith.
Faith is a gross mockery of knowledge, and is all man has. By faith, man sees the world he wants to see. The general consensus is round planets, but if you wanted only to see flat planets, that may well manifest...FOR YOU...but not necessarily for anyone else. Faith is like that, able to blind you to reality by providing you with all the evidence you want or need to convince you that what you wish for is now the reality. So, faith is deceiving as it manifests imagination into "reality".
For those who can see Christ, they cannot also see "this world", as reality and imagination are incompatible and cannot coexist. And so, to them, what YOU see is irrelevant nostalgia that does not exist and is no longer needed if it ever was.
This is not about being hip or cool.
While Christianity may be irrelevant nostalgia, what I'm saying will still be relevant 2000 years down the strange road of "time".
Continue reading...