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steve

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Ps we tried optical sensors too but there were to many limitations. In the end the hybrid v1 was aimed with pan tilt zoom cameras. It was aimed by a player watching the video remotely. We used either video splitting or a second camera for green zero detection. Green detection used a module with rgb level tolerances. I still have the equipment if anyone's interested. The v3's image recognition is far better.
 
steve said:
Sorry about the video quality. It was roughly 10 years ago.
Steve here is main reason of all arguings . First - all videos you done are old and quality is so so, second that is still only videos. Peoples usually not very believe to video.
Now are beautifull web cameras with 60fr/sec and good internet relationship, what not allow for that who not believe will do short skype translattion with web camera ?
That imidiatelly will show who can what....
Even on video translattion is possible to predict, afterall now is many online casinos with quite good video translattion. What not allow to conect to such casino from diferent parts of world and predict numbers ?
Imidiatelly all will be clear....
 

steve

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Bebediktus, I mostly agree with what you said. But:

1. Any serious player could just get my computer free anyway. Testing for yourself is better than any video.

2. For demos if someone wanted to "buy" instead and keep all their winnings, then they can just hire a wheel and spin it themselves, and aim a camera using Skype. Then I can get predictions from their video.

If a player wanted to test online casino wheels, yes this can be done. But I live in an area with a bad internet connection, so it not possible to stream video from the online casino, and stream back video to the observer at the same time. But if a player records video from online casinos and meets me in person, then I can easily test on those spins. It would be the first time I see the spins so its not like I could cheat.

I have done roughly 50 public demos. Some people even hire wheels and bring them, but usually they are even easier to beat than my mk7 huxley.

I know my videos could be better quality, but again people can just test my computers free anyway. Even if they were all 4k videos it wouldnt make a difference. Videos can be faked anyway.

Basically for anyone serious, it is very easy for me to show proof of my claims. Although I do sell some computers, I would much rather a serious player join my profit split team and get the computer free. You only pay part of winnings. I can easily see everything players do in the casino with streamed video and I can see all accuracy achieved and wins.
 
steve said:
Bebediktus, I mostly agree with what you said. But:
Main thing why peoples not believe is that there are many scamers which sell something , himself not know what but name that as holly graal. After contact with such scammer - player lost money and not get nothing - no knwledges no some practically usefull device and later he not believe in nobody.

So must be some simple way to show posibility to have advantage without big troubles for player .
Video for that is not good. We all saw nice videos produced by Jafco, but what practical use.... ?

Problem is that usually old VB players not feel benefit which can give good done computer program. From other side Computer maker not know what can do VB player. Both sides thinks about other side worse than it is....

Usually computer player and VB player use ideally the same algorythm to find wining point.
With good program clocking mistakes not do such damage as other thinks, in some situattions theese mistakes not have efect at all....or can do the same proporttions better and worse - so in most cases they are neutral....
 

steve

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When you can test a computer before buying, or even get it free and pay from winnings, people don't need to care about videos.

There are many ways for anyone to know the truth without any doubt. But without actually doing it, people have no idea and just rely on speculation without information.

There's also www.roulette-computers.com/free-trial/ but what is better than you get an $80,000 computer for free and pay only with winnings and only if you win?
 

steve

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Yes, its also the one where players only pay part of profits and only if they beat the wheel. 30% edge is typical but the end edge is lower because of deliberate losing bets to avoid detection. So a 30% edge ends up being around 20% or so from a profit perspective.
 

vasiliswhat

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i think everything is the relation about what we pay and what we get for the money we pay. i dont know about steve roulette computers but ffz is very-very good roulette computer for the money it cost. it have unique functions,timer for vb ,many others that help the player to beat the monster( only when that is possible of course,we cant win every wheel.),do everything that his creator claims that can do, and i think that nobody felt idiot for the money he gave for ffz.i think anybody have it that will confirm all that.
 

steve

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I have a FFZ and FFA. The FFZ is similar to my basic computer version. And the FFA is similar to my Lite version computer. You will get comparable accuracy with the free computer at www.roulette-computers.com/free-trial/ which uses a traditional algorithm. I don't want to get into a debate about this. Anyone can test for free and see. I agree his devices are good value. But you can get comparable accuracy with a very basic algorithm. The hybrid is very different, and still lower startup investment.
 

Really

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If another computer seller was to claim that they had a vb computer that could cure the common cold, then Steve would immediately claim that his computer could cure cancer. Over the year's he's been more than a bit wild with his claims.
 

steve

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That's just idiotic. My claims are simple and easily proven because anyone can test my computers for free.

You claim your VB can get better accuracy than 1ms. And my claims are wild?

You didn't even believe my computers can do 1ms accuracy. And when I present substantiating information that made you look like an ass, the above is what you post.

Nothing you can post will make a difference. Your posts don't change facts.
 
steve said:
I have a FFZ and FFA. The FFZ is similar to my basic computer version. And the FFA is similar to my Lite version computer.
Steve , very strange that you compare computers. Not computer is main - main is program. Computer can be totally bad but i can write in it good program ant it will beat wheels.
Second thing is that can be good program user and bad program user. Now imagine that you have some painting program . What you will start paint better than Leonardo da Vinci ? If Leonardo will wake up he still will paint better than you with your program. You agree ?

So from that follow that main - is player !!! And program and whole computer are only crutch when you not have legs, or maybe a wheelchair.

Ok maybe it is bicycle in comparing with runner. And in some situattions bicycle simply can help for runner to move faster.

But for that we need that bicycle will be good , but if it will have braked wheel , then it will do only damage....

Now to Really as i take alegorian with painting program / painting computer and good painter , so what painting program will make from good painter - bad ???? I not agree....I think here are no relationships.
If you need to take square rooth from 2782834698 - computer or calculator really will help you , but from other side - that solve also possible without calculattor and maybe even more exact , but for that solver will spent much more time...
So all is reliative....
 

steve

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vasilis mentioned ffz so I explained he can compare it to a free computer I provide.

I'm well aware any computer is just a tool. A bad tradesman blames his tools. But I wasn't talking about that. I know very well how to use his computers. Anyway my point was just anyone can test and compare for free. I wont get into it further.
 
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